Elisabeth Hasselbeck: I know your mind is pretty made up about waterboarding, correct? You were waterboarded as part of your Navy Seal training, correct?
Jesse Ventura: Well, it wasn’t part of the Navy seal training, it was part of what they call SERE school: Survival, Escape, Resistance, Evasion. It’s a school they required you to go to prior to the combat zone of Vietnam. And yes, we were all water boardedthere, and yes it is torture.
What do you think about Nancy Pelosi in terms of what she has been claiming about the CIA lying to the Congress?
Jesse Ventura: I think what’s worst is this: the fact that it happened. If we hadn’t waterboarded to begin with, none of this would be a controversy, would it? Torture is torture. If you’re going to be a country that follows the rule of law, which we are, torture is illegal.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: But these were specifically approved techniques with KSM, okay?
Jesse Ventura: Approved by whom?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Khalid Sheikh Mohamed, the information we extracted from him before water boarding was zip. Afterward waterboarding he released the information.
Jesse Ventura: No, he released all the information before waterboarding.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: This was a case that was used three times.
Jesse Ventura: The point is this. Alright, wait a minute. If waterboarding is ok, then why don’t we let our police do it to suspects so they can learn what they know?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: That’s an interesting question. I have a similar question.
Jesse Ventura: If waterboarding is okay, why didn’t we water board McVeigh and Nicholas, the Oklahoma City bombers, to find out if there were more people involved?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Well, what is your answer to that? Why didn’t we?
Jesse Ventura: Well, I don’t know. We only seem to waterboard Muslims. Have we waterboarded anyone else? Name me someone else we have waterboarded.
Lady Participant: Well, one of the things that’s coming out now is that they were waterboarding them to get a connection between Iraq and Al Qaida. And that the reason they waterboarded them was to get information so they could justify their invasion of Iraq. How does that work into your theory on how great it is?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: I’m not saying it’s great, okay? I’m not saying, “Hey everybody, let’s go next door and get waterboarded”. I’m concerned right now about Nancy Pelosi who was supposedly briefed.
Other Members: She is lying. She lies.
Jesse Ventura: They want her out now, right? Because she lied. Well, why didn’t they ask for Bush and Cheney to go out when they lied about why we went into Iraq?
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Senator Hillary Clinton was right there with them, as were many Democrats.
Jesse Ventura: The point is, nothing’s going to happen because they’re all involved? The Democrats and Republicans are both involved, that’s why President Obama is backing off from it. And we’re not going to do it now. It’s a good thing I’m not the President, I’m an independent. Because I would prosecute the people who did it, I would prosecute the people who ordered it, and they would all go to jail.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Would you prosecute President Obama in the future going backwards when he ordered the killing of the Somali pirates? I mean, you have to think about everything that’s…
Jesse Ventura: There is a difference. That’s apples and oranges. You’re not talking about someone in custody who is supposedly under… okay how would we feel, look how outraged we were when waterboarding was done to our vets in Vietnam. Where do you think we learned it from? And we created the Hanoi Hilton right in Guantanamo. That’s our Hanoi Hilton. People have died there, people are tortured there. I’m ashamed of my country.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Extremist are not basing their behaviors on ours. I can guarantee that they’re out to get us no matter what.
Jesse Ventura: Should we stoop to their level? No. We should be above that.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Absolutely.
Jesse Ventura: Torture is wrong.
Elisabeth Hasselbeck: Torture is wrong but enhanced interrogation techniques are different.
Jesse Ventura: Enhanced interrogation techniques is Dick Chaney changing the word. Dick Cheney comes up with a new word to cover his ass. Hey, I have said it before, you give me a waterboard, 1 hour and Dick Chaney and I’ll have him confessing to the Sharon Tate murders.