4/4/2011

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Alex Jones: Ladies and gentlemen, we’ve got a surprise guest in the first hour today. He’s getting ready to leave town and go down to Mexico for the winter. He’s a former Governor of Minnesota, movie star, top wrestler, bestselling author, football commentator, you name it. He is, of course, Jesse Ventura. But he’s got his crown jewel of this season, and really what’s dear to his heart, the JFK special with multiple groundbreaking never before seen on national TV info, they even go out to George Herbert Walker Bush. This is dangerous, and Braverman was on last week and said there are forces trying to stop the show, there are people breaking into their trash and guys in suits running around. They don’t want to get into all of it. There’s a lot of harassment going on; that’s not hype, this is really going on. So on the heels of the police-state episode, that we’re going to talk about later on in the hour, that folks are blown away by – it’s going to re-air tonight at 8 o’clock before the new premier at 9 central. Here’s Governor Jesse Ventura, great to have you, Gov.

Jesse Ventura: Hi, Alex. It’s always great to be here. How is everything down in Austin?

Alex Jones: Winter is starting to set in, I bet it’s about to set up in Minnesota.

Jesse Ventura: Oh, we already had a blizzard. You know, our winters are a little different than Texas winters usually. But yea, we’ve already had a blizzard. We’ve got storms on the ground, and even though the temperatures have been hovering around freezing, the snow hasn’t fully left. So who knows, maybe we’ll have it the rest of the year.

Alex Jones: Gov, you know, on this show we have the first little short segment, and then we’re going to come back with the long segment later. But I just wanted to commend you and the team, and I’m very honored to be involved, as investigative reporting goes, and for groundbreaking information and courage, and the fact that it got on air. I know most of the crew agreed – I don’t know your view – but I believe that police state episode was so far the best the Conspiracy Theory has ever put on air.

Jesse Ventura: Oh, I won’t be that judgmental. I’m proud of all of them that we’re putting on the air, they’re all different topics, they’re all extremely interesting. And when you dwell and get into them, they get even more interesting to do. But Alex, I’m going to drop a bombshell on you today.

Alex Jones: Okay.

Jesse Ventura: And that is this: it all may be coming to an end for me and I haven’t gone public with this and I saved it for you because of my respect for you. But it deals directly with what’s going on with our airlines. As you know, I’ve had hip resurfacing done, so every time I get on the plane, the buzzer goes off. Well, now they’ve gone to this enhanced interrogation, or whatever they want to call it, enhanced searching. And, Alex, that guy in San Diego is completely correct. If they did this to you on the street, it would be considered a sexual attack.

Alex Jones: Absolutely.

Jesse Ventura: So I am refusing to fly commercial airlines anymore. I will not subject myself to this. I’m a governor, I’m a mayor, I’m a United States Navy veteran. I don’t feel that I need to prove that I’m not a murderer, that I would hijack a plane or any such nonsense. And I will not subject myself. And the head of Homeland Security, Janet Napolitano, whatever her name was, her big quote yesterday on this enhanced searching was, she said, “If you don’t like it, don’t fly”. Well, that’s the ultimatum she’s given me and I’m exercising it. I will not fly on a commercial airline again, unless I change my mind.

Alex Jones: Wow.

Jesse Ventura: And you know me, I don’t change my mind too often.

Alex Jones: No you don’t. And governor, some stations don’t carry this first segment. I want to come back and recap all this, because that was on my list. l I wanted to talk about the breaking, seriously historical, transmission that we hope makes it on air tonight. I mean, there’s never been anything this brave on television dealing with JFK this accurate. Then I want to go back over the FEMA camps special, the police state special that’s going to air tonight before the premier, and that was next. TSA; I’ve flown with you, I’ve seen what you go through. And now they actually stick their hands in your pants. We’ve broke that two weeks ago, people didn’t believe that, now it’s confirmed. Stay there, governor, I want to talk about this when we get back. This is incredible, stay with us.

Well, his hit TV show is now well into its second season, the JFK special with breaking never before seen deathbed confession by one of the assassins, it fingers George Herbert Walker Bush. We’re going to get Governor Ventura to talk about as much as he can ahead of the premier tonight at 9 o’clock central on truth TV, the hour before the police state FEMA camp special that has just literally been a brushfire across the country; a huge story in the last week since it aired. That’s going to re-air at 8 o’clock tonight, the hour before the new premier. I have the governor on to talk about that today, but he said, “Alex, I’ve got something else I want to talk about”, and he said he was saving it for this radio broadcast today, and this is newsworthy. And so Governor Jesse Ventura, before we get into the TV show, we appreciate you breaking this here and joining the revolt and break down your view on what’s happening.

Jesse Ventura: Well Alex, as you know, first of all, I had to have hip surgery so I got a technique called ‘hip resurfacing’ which means, of course, they put carbon, titanium, steel into your body, they cover your joint with it. It’s because of that that I’m able to walk today. If it weren’t’ for the hip surgery, the resurfacing, I would be in a wheelchair and (?) I wouldn’t be leading too good of a life. But I had to have it. But in light of that, every time I go to an airport, the metal detector goes off because I have the metal in my body, which many people do. Now they’ve done this enhanced searching where the TSA and Homeland Security have said it’s not good enough, you got to go into the full body x-ray machines, now you don’t even get wanded(?), you get completely hand-searched. If they touched you – the guy from San Diego was completely correct – if you were touched that way on the street, it would be a sexual assault. But they’re able to get away with this because of apparently providing safety for us on the airplanes. So I’ve made the decision myself personally that I will not fly public aircraft anymore nor use the public to where I’m subjected to this. I feel that as a former governor, a former mayor, a honorably discharged United States Navy veteran, a Vietnam veteran, that I can’t live with myself and subject myself that every time I go to an airport, I have to prove that I am not a murders, I have to prove that I am not guilty of anything, I have to prove that I won’t hijack a plane. I find it ridiculous and so from my own personal choice, I will not fly a commercial airline or subject myself to that again. And it probably means an end to my career, pretty much, I don’t know. If there are jobs to do, now I will have to fly either in a private plane or find another mode of transportation, if I so desire to do that. But I will not do this anymore in the United States of America, within our boundaries be subjected to a policy that is the exact opposite of our legal standards in America; that you’re innocent until proven guilty. Now I admit, certainly security things need to be done, but why is the U.S. government in charge of it? Why isn’t each individual airline in charge of their own security in determining who flies their planes and who doesn’t?

Alex Jones: Well, that’s the key, governor. TSA is already rolling out viper teams, they have mobile vans, mobile trucks where they are openly now making people go through them at random sport stadium events, at musical events, at bus stops, at train stations, on highways. This is a total federal power grab with minimum wage security guards given powers that police can’t engage in. And yesterday I had the DA from San Mateo County on, and that’s where the San Francisco airport is based. And he said that his Sherriff’s deputies can’t grab someone’s genitals inside their pants or on the outside unless it’s an emergency and the person’s been arrested, and then it’s got to be the same gender. And he said that he’s not just warned the TSA that they’re “not above the law” (that was his quote), but that he is now dispatched Sherriff’s deputies to the San Francisco airport, and that if he sees them touching people’s genitals through the cloths, it’s a misdemeanor; they’ll be arrested. If they’ll put them in the pants, which they’ve not announced and they’ve not confirmed, including in some cases actually going in the underwear and grabbing the genitals and squeezing them, that it will be felony sexual assault. Now other DAs have come out. Now major airports in Florida are saying, “We don’t have to have the federal government in here, we are going to do our own security”.

Jesse Ventura: Well, to me, why isn’t it done by the airlines in the first place? They’re supposed to be private enterprise, why is it the government that provides security for the airlines? Let the airlines provide their own. And then you choose who you want to fly with. And if you have a relationship with that airline, like in my case, it would be Delta Airlines because they bought out and merged with North West. Well, the North West hub was here, I know them very well having being the governor. Why can’t I have a relationship with an airline where I’m not subjected to this type of behavior simply because I want to go fly and do my jobs or whatever it may be, go on vacation. Whatever it might be. But yet I’ve never been arrested, I’ve never broken the law, I’m not a terrorist, I’ve served my country honorably for 6 years in the military. I wish no ill will on my country, I’m a patriot to my country, and yet I’m subjected and treated like I might hijack a plane or I might blow up and murder people. And I take offense to that, Alex.

Alex Jones: Well, Governor, that’s what this is all about, it’s about training us that we’re the bad guys and that we have no constitutional training. They don’t search people like this in communist China.

Jesse Ventura: Well, I have friends in Mexico who come from Europe, and they’ve told me they avoid the United States like the plague now, that when they go to Mexico, they will fly through any other cities, except going through the United States.

Alex Jones: CNN as well as the Associated Press reported that it’s been over 9 billion dollars a year lost since 2006 that they know of, because terrorism is down by over a third because foreigners won’t come here because of the police state. And they’ve been phasing in these enhanced pat downs, they’ve been phasing in the body scanners for terrorist from outside. Now they’re just doing it to citizens and we’re doing the same thing and just last week, they had the heads of the Pilot Association, they had the heads of the Flight Attendant Unions, they had the lobbyist who represent the hotels and the theme parks, and they said, “Please stop, it’s killing us”.

Jesse Ventura: The thing is, Alex, they’ll offer to me when I put off the original buzzer when I walk through, you’ve seen it, we’ve travelled together. The buzzer goes off and then I’m given an option: I can go into this full body scan x-ray machine, for which they have to black out your face because if the photo from that were put on the internet, they would have full nudity of you.

Alex Jones: Did you hear about it leaking?

Jesse Ventura: So you’re also being x-rayed, Alex? Now, if you’re flying 4 times a week, I don’t care how much they tell you how little radiation you’re getting, you start multiplying that 4, 5, 6 times a week, 52 weeks out of the year maybe, then if 5 years from now I get some brain tumor and everyone is going to say, “Gee, how did that happen?”

Alex Jones: Incredible, that was my…

Jesse Ventura: So I don’t want to go in those things. The pilots don’t want to be subjected to them, the flight attendants don’t want to be subjected to them. The people who fly the most do not want to be subjected. When you go in and get an x-ray, they cover your genitals with lead, the guy goes into another room. They even do that with teeth x-rays. And now they’re saying, “Oh yea, go walk through this thing 4, 5 times a week and then tell me 3 years from now if something is wrong or if you develop something.. Well, I refuse to do that, so now I’m subjected to these searches that on the street would be deemed as, as you said by this deputy, illegal.

Alex Jones: Absolutely, by multiple DAs now.

Jesse Ventura: And I think you’re exactly right, Alex. I think they’re doing this to prepare us. That’s why I’m rebelling because, Alex, in a free society I was getting too comfortable being searched 3 to 4 to 5 times a week, and I finally said I can’t do this anymore and keep my sanity. I believe in freedom, and I believe nobody has the right to search you for any reason in our country unless they have probable cause that you’ve committed a crime and they got a warrant to that extent. And so the only way I can rebel is do what Napolitano said. She gave the ultimatum: “If you don’t like it, don’t fly”. Alright, I take her up on it, I’m not flying anymore.

Alex Jones: Absolutely. So you agree that we need to draw the line here and say, “No”. Because notice, it’s always more and more and more. Take your shoes off, answer questions, can’t carry shampoo, can’t have toothpaste. Now we’re going to naked body scan you. Now they’re saying on top of it, they’re going to feel you down, now they say they’re going in your pants. And now England has announced at the Manchester airport, “Okay, no more pat downs. If you don’t go through the scanner, you will not fly”. And this is the seizure of the once free western society. And on top of it, governor, what do you think of Chertoff ordering the first scanners as Homeland Security head, and then becoming the head of the company making millions of dollars himself off this.

Jesse Ventura: Well, you know, let’s get on to our conspiracy shows a little. Alex, every conspiracy show we do on TV generally they deal with the government. I will tell you this; as we follow all of the paper trails of the evidence, on over 50% of them roughly, the name Halliburton always appears.

Alex Jones: Alright, Governor, stay there. Let’s come back and get into JFK, the new episode airing tonight. And you heard him, this may be the end of show because he is not flying. And I’ve been there with him at the airport and I’ve seen them just squeezing all over him at Atlanta. It’s incredible. Now they want to stick their hands down your pants. What’s next, proctology exams? Stay with us.

Okay, we are here live with Jesse Ventura. I want to get in to tonight’s premier at 9 o’clock central, 10 PM eastern on Truth TV of the JFK special. And believe me, nothing like this has ever been on national TV. This is bold. But, Governor, finishing up briefly with the huge revolt, I mean, every time I turn on the TV, CNN, MSNBC, Fox it’s all they’re talking about. And more and more people … I’ve seen polls of 96% in Reuters saying they’re not going to fly because of this. Big Sis Napolitano has already had to back off and say that, “Okay, under 12 we won’t grab your genitals. Okay, the pilots you’ve just got to show an ID to make sure that you are who you say you are.” So they’re backing off. The problem is they’ll just stage some new terror attack. The latest thing in Germany, it turned out, was a government drill. There wasn’t really a bomb yesterday, they just used that to scaremonger us. But I see the American people finally really getting angry over the government sticking their hands down their pants.

Jesse Ventura: Well, I hope so, Alex. Maybe they’ve finally gone too far, I don’t know, I certainly would hope so. As I’ve said, they’ve gone too far with me. I will not fly commercial again as long as these standards that are currently in place right now apply.

Alex Jones: And you said something very astute as the same thing was happening. I noticed flying 5, 6, 7 years ago I got angry about them asking me questions and taking my shoes off. Now it is routine, like I was taking out the garbage or making coffee. I felt comfortable doing it. We’re all being conditioned and it’s always more and more and more. This is Pavlovian conditioning.

Jesse Ventura: Oh, absolutely. Absolutely it is, because that’s what happened to me this summer. I was flying probably 2, 3, 4 times a week doing the show to different locations throughout the country, and I started to become comfortable with the fact that 3 or 4 times a week I would be patted down and searched. The last time I flew was when the enhanced went into effect. I had one last flight from Washington DC back to Minneapolis and, of course, I set the buzzer off, I refused to go into the microwave, and so they had to hand-search me and they explained they don’t even use the wand now, Alex. They used to just basically wand you. You know, I may still fly in foreign countries, because foreign countries just wand you where they don’t actually touch you. They just go around you with a handheld wand.

Alex Jones: Let’s look at this quickly and then move on to JFK.

Jesse Ventura: Well, the point is, that won’t happen in the United States now unless they change policy, so I’m left with no alternative. As Napolitano said in a blunt statement, “If you don’t like it, don’t fly”. So I’m choosing not to fly and I encourage others to do the same.

Alex Jones: That will shut these parasites down. I think they’re going to fail and then they’ll just stage a terror attack. Governor, looking at this, though, just three weeks ago I was in an airport watching them put their hands on the clothes of the genitals and they push. I saw this happen, and now it’s all over the news. Men, woman; they actually squeeze your privates…

Jesse Ventura: Well, I had it done to me, and they don’t squeeze, they didn’t do that to me, but they actually go into your groin so close that they actually go down through your groin and almost to your anus. That’s what was done to me a couple of weeks ago – the last straw for me.

Alex Jones: Okay well, since then, sir, they now – this is mainstream news, we broke this a few weeks ago and people couldn’t believe it, it’s all over the news. They actually stick their hand into your pants and grab your genitals.

Jesse Ventura: Well, I can’t believe these people would do it that work for TSA. They’re okay with what they’re doing?

Alex Jones: They say, “Oh, we’re professionals.”

Jesse Ventura: You know what it is, Alex, and lets tie it into the JFK show right now. We have a confession tonight that people for the first time in history will hear someone confess to the murder of John Kennedy. And I’ll just say this; this is a spine chilling confession, it hits me right in the gut when it happens everything I look at it. And what hits me the most out of it is this, Alex, the person confessing is not confessing out of shame. The person is proudly confessing, the person believes that what they did in killing our president that our country benefited from it in the long run. And that’s truly the chilling part of the show, is that these people that work for our government now believe that what they’re doing is in the best interest of our country. Because this guy that participated in murdering our president that was the attitude he had. It’s not a confession of sorrow, it’s a confession of, “I want the world to know what we did because we’re proud of it.”

Alex Jones: Stay there, governor, we have a big, long segment coming up. Let’s get into this in more detail. This is chilling and ground breaking, it airs tonight 9 o’clock central. Stay with us.

Alex Jones: Well, you heard it here first, former Governor Jesse Ventura has got a top rated TV show, and he’s saying he doesn’t even know if he can do it again next year, because he’s not going through the TSA. Well, my wife and children aren’t going through. I’m going to continue to fly, but I guess they’re going to have to throw me out because they’re not putting their hands on my genitals, they’re not putting their hands down my pants , I’m not going in the radiation cooker. Napolitano sourced the John Hopkins as saying the scanners were safe when the federal government’s own body says it’s not. And then The John Hopkins head of radiology came out, the doctor, Mr. Love, and told A.P., “We didn’t tell them that, that’s not true”. They’ve been on record saying repeated doses of this will give you skin cancer, bare minimum – it is x-rays. And what about the TSA workers that are around it all day? And we know they’re firing TSA workers that don’t want to do this. Over and over when they stick their hands in your pants, they say…

Jesse Ventura: Alex, let me interject something, though. You won’t have to necessarily worry about that, because if you go through and you don’t set off the metal detector, it’s the same as always.

Alex Jones: No, no, no. TSA has now announced in the Chicago Tribune that they do plan to have scanners everywhere and phase out metal detectors altogether. You’re right from now, Governor.

Jesse Ventura: Okay. See, the only reason I did this is because I had the surgery in which they put the metal in my body. So I could walk through naked and it’s going to go off because it’s inside my body. But if you go through and you don’t have any metal on you and you strip down the way they tell you, put your shoes on there and all that, you can still travel normal. If I was faced with only that, I would continue to fly.

Alex Jones: But it’s traumatic watching. I was in San Hose three weeks ago for 20 minutes drinking coffee after I’d gone through, Governor. I only watched women and children, no men. I saw them feeling up 1 year old, 2 year old babies. It happened to one of my employees, Michele, to her 20 month old baby. They had a man search Michele that works in my office. I mean, Governor, this is just they’re breaking every taboo. But I’m sorry, you got back to your raw exercise of power of how the TSA say they’re proud of what they’re doing. Same thing with this deathbed assassin confession. This is a famous villain, this is a famous well known character. What was the term you used off air?

Jesse Ventura: Oh, I don’t recall, I don’t remember.

Alex Jones: You described him really well, though, because it will be exposed tonight as a …

Jesse Ventura: Well, the thing about this person is he’s proud of it. This is not a confession of sorrow, it’s not a confession of, “I want to apologize to America that we killed your president”. It’s a confession of, “Wait a minute, I want credit for this, because we made America a better place by killing your president by taking the vote away from you and putting it into a trigger finger instead of a ballot”, you know. And that’s the real scary part about it on the show tonight. You know, there are fun parts of the show, too. We retrace the exact root that Oswald took when he left the bookstore and was subsequently arrested in the theatre. And that in itself is bizarre, it makes no sense and so people who watch that will be very interested…

Alex Jones: You also, as an expert marksmen in the Navy Seals who shot expert, you tried to recreate what Oswald supposedly did, and you couldn’t.

Jesse Ventura: No, I couldn’t even come close, Alex, because of the fact that you can’t work the bullet fast enough and hit on target. Once you go to work the Mannlicher-Cancano bolt –

Alex Jones: It’s a piece of junk.

Jesse Ventura: — the telescopic sight was like a thin cigar, and this is identical to what they showed as the killing weapon. Well, when you drew the bullets from the second and third shots, which allegedly he missed the first shot anyway, so I would miss the first shot on purpose, except for the last time. I did it four times, the last time I did it just to show that the first shot would be the best. I said this time instead of missing the first shot on purpose, I’m going to shoot the silhouette of Jackie right between the shoulder blades, and I did it with the first shot to show how accurate you would with the first shot. But then subsequently working the bullet takes you off target.

Alex Jones: Yes.

Jesse Ventura: Well, the fastest I could do the bullet was 8.6 seconds, and they’re claiming Oswald did it in 6 flat. That’s almost three seconds faster than I could.

Alex Jones: So it took you 8 seconds?

Jesse Ventura: It took me 8.6 seconds just to do the bolt, and that’s blindly shooting, you can’t even hit on target. That’s just to be able to get the rounds out, Alex.

Alex Jones: Yea, that’s firing the three rounds.

Jesse Ventura: Well, they’re three; the initial round and then the two that come after it.

Alex Jones: Sure, you just got to do the bold load twice.

Jesse Ventura: Now, I did score a headshot, but let’s remember, my targets will not be moving or declining, mine were stationary. They were the identical lengths of the Warren Commission stated, we measured them all, and I go up in a big lift, so I’m at the exact shooting position that they claimed Oswald shot from. But the difference was, my targets were not moving, his were, and I couldn’t even do the targets that were not moving.

Alex Jones: Sure. Just to be specific, though, I know there were three shots, I’m saying one shot where you already have the round chambered, and then twice that you had to do the bolt, that took over 8 seconds.

Jesse Ventura: It took 8.6 seconds, that was my fastest. That was the fastest one, we did it 4 times.

Alex Jones: You know what the Italians called that riffle? The humane riffle’?

Jesse Ventura: Oh yea, I’m aware of it. We had Dr. Flesner with us when we did it.

Alex Jones: And you also interviewed Jim Marrs. Great guy.

Jesse Ventura: Yep, we talked to Jim right in the theatre and Jim will reveal stuff tonight that’s very interesting, extremely interesting. Well, here’s one interesting thing you got, Alex; food for thought of common sense. Now you’ve just had the murder of the president, little while away you have a murder of a police officer on the street. Now the only phone call made was that someone went into the movie theatre and didn’t buy a ticket. Now if that happened in that sequence of order: the murder of the president, a half hour later the murder of a police officer, and a half hour later somebody doesn’t buy a ticket to go into a theatre. How come nearly 20 cops in 8 or 9 squad cars arrive to arrest a guy who didn’t buy a ticket to the theatre?

Alex Jones: Well, normally, specially in 1963, they would just send in the theatre manager to throw you out or demand you buy a ticket.

Jesse Ventura: Well, not only that, but as a police dispatcher, you got the president murdered out there, you got a police officer shot dead on the street. You’re going to dispatch 20 cops to a movie theatre?

Alex Jones: It shows it was all staged.

Jesse Ventura: It was all staged. I believe that Oswald was supposed to die in the theatre, and I think that’s where the screw up came up. That they were going to get him and kill him there for resisting arrest. And that way they’d do him in there. But something went afoul, I believe, and they had to then take him into custody and then, of course, they then had to get Ruby to kill him. By the way, there’s a phenomenal new book on it out, Alex, I don’t know if you know about it. Have you heard of Judyth Vary Baker?

Alex Jones: Yes.

Jesse Ventura: Well, I just read her book. She was in all the banks of New Orleans prior to him going to Dallas everyday. The entire Jim Garrison Case becomes crystal clear. This was Oswald’s mistress, and she knows more than Marina would ever know, because that’s one of the keys to the mystery. Oswald was already estranged from Marina for months prior to the killing.

Alex Jones: Amazing.

Jesse Ventura: He was having an affair with this woman and she herself was involved in the whole thing. Oswald clearly was a CIA agent and a FBI informant, because he was working on a project with this woman, with David Ferrie, with Ochsner of the famous Ochsner Cancer Clinic down in Tulane(?). They were attempting to create a fast moving cancer with which to assassinate Castro.

Alex Jones: And now they’ve put it in the vaccines.

Jesse Ventura: But that’s the behind-the-story of who Lee Harvey Oswald was. Why do you think, Alex, they had to take all information on Oswald and lock it up in the national archives because of national security?

Alex Jones: Oh, absolutely. I mean, why do you think he’s out at secret U-2 spy plane base in Japan, is allowed to go to Russia, and allowed to defect back and then just left alone and not thrown in Irons. I mean, this guy …

Jesse Ventura: If you read this book by Judyth Vary Baker, she wrote the book, she’s in hiding, she’s in Europe right now, and she’s been in hiding. You know how she hid out all these years? She became a Mormon and Mormons have kind of close knit communities of protection. And that’s how she … David Ferrie warned her, “If you want to live, you better go underground”, and she did. Her husband didn’t know about this, her children didn’t, and it’s all documented in this book. It’s just thrilling to read this thing.

Alex Jones: Well, I want to get her on that show, I’ve been meaning to do that.

Jesse Ventura: You can’t get her, she’s in Europe and she won’t come here because of fear for her life even today. And in the book, though, remember when Oswald worked at the O’Reily Coffee Company?

Alex Jones: Yes.

Jesse Ventura: She was likewise hired there, that was both under the guise of working for Dr. Ochsner, Oswald could move about freely because she did his timecards every day. And in the book, she shows you the timecards with her initials at the bottom, it’s all true, and it’s all documented. She has it all. Oswald was a government agent.

Alex Jones: Definitely. It’s even come out in some government documents that he was. Also we have CIA documents that haven’t been classified that show a George Herbert Walker Bush working for the CIA. But he said he was never in the CIA until the mid 1970s when Nixon, who we know was involved in the JFK operation, magically makes him CIA director. But tonight you guys really do something that takes a lot of (?)

Jesse Ventura: Whenever you do one of these things, Alex, you think you know it all. I mean, I’ve been studying JFK over 25 years, but in the course of doing this, even I got stunned when there is a connection to George Herbert Walker Bush. And we will

Jesse Ventura: … research I had done up until this. So that’s one of the exciting things about doing this show; no matter what preconceived ideas that I have and knowledge I have going in, something always happens or something rears its head that I am unaware of. Like in many cases it always turns up to be Haliburton, but in this case, of course, it’s different.

Alex Jones: But Haliburton was involved in one way; Haliburton was subsidiary of Kellogg Brown and Root that made the billions of dollars on construction projects and dredging the gulf of Tonkin and other areas. They were some of the biggest lobbyist angry about …

Jesse Ventura: There you go. Again Haliburton rears its head even 40 years after the war. Amazing.

Alex Jones: Unbelievable. That’s coming up tonight 9 o’clock on TruTV. It’s on most basic cable packages.

Jesse Ventura: You know, what’s going to be interesting, Alex? Now, this should be headline news in the paper tomorrow, shouldn’t it?

Alex Jones: Yes.

Jesse Ventura: I mean, the fact that someone has now confessed to killing our president because, let’s remember something, there’s no statute of limitations on murder. If you kill someone 50 years ago, you can be tried for it today, because there’s no statute of limitation. So here you have a confession to the murder of our president, and yet mainstream media won’t even report this show tomorrow that this happened. This ought to be on the front page of every newspaper in America.

Alex Jones: Governor, let’s try to change that together with the audience right now. We have succeeded in the 50+ times we’ve done this almost every time. Yesterday we did a term dealing with silver and it only made it to no.2. We need to make this the no.1 Google search today, right now, so that hundreds of publications go click on it and find out that it’s www.InfoWars.com and www.PrisonPlanet.com. We need to make “JFK assassination deathbed confession”, – those three words – and that will lead them to article that leads them to the show tonight. Folks, this is true activism, just like we stared three weeks ago; the revolt against the TSA here on this show, even mainstream media has admitted that. The drugs report teamed up with us, and now it’s the biggest story and the revolt is on. We can have another salvo for truth here. I want you to go to Google and type in these initials and two words: “JFK deathbed confession”. I want the crew to type it in Google right now, I’m going to do it during the break. “JFK deathbed confession”, those three words. Let’s make it no.1. I mean, they’ve put a lot on the line, they’ve had guys in suites breaking into their trash, trying to find out their JFK context. I’ve been getting threats, there’s been all sorts of (?) going on. They exposed the FEMA camps last week like no one has ever done, with the complete proof. We’re going to talk about that before Jesse has got to leave here in about 12 minutes. This is just as breaking, or more, tonight 9 o’clock central, 10 o’clock eastern. Let’s make it the no.1 search term today so people get interested and check it out. This is how we go around the media blockade, “JFK deathbed confession”.

Now, shifting gears, Governor Ventura, I want to salute you, and I want to say I was honored to be involved and thank you for involving me on the fusion centers, the MIAC reports that we broke last year when law enforcement gave it to us for putting it on national TV, going to the FEMA camps, going and confronting the congressmen that co-authored and sponsored bills, having them play dumb and then confronting them with the bill. I thought it was going to re-air tonight, like the Wall Street one aired from the week before last week before the police state one. But they’re not re-airing the police state tonight at 8 o’clock, they’re airing something else, one of the previous shows, and that’s fine. But I think this is some of the most important television I have ever seen. It really woke a lot of folks up. We’ve had Glenn Beck denying FEMA camps, we’ve had popular mechanics with their classic dissent for a straw man going to things that aren’t camps to then saying there are no camps in the world. You know, that classic tactic. What can you say …

Jesse Ventura: Alex, the bottom line was I saw one.

Alex Jones: Absolutely.

Jesse Ventura: I mean, I stood in front of it, and they called it a residence. And thing’s got a barbwire fence, it’s got multiple fences 20 feet in between them. I was a governor, I know what a prison looks like, and this looks like a prison. You can’t walk in it, no one can come out freely, yet it’s called a residence. They even have a sign, “You can be arrested if you bring in anything that allows someone to escape.” Well, then clearly this is not what I saw a residence. This is a detainment center, which is another word for a prison.

Alex Jones: Guys, give me a document cam shot for www.PrisonPlanet.tv viewers.

Jesse Ventura: And so that’s the bottom line, that these places are out there. And the other big thing to remember is when I go to confront these congressman, remember, they may be telling the truth, they may be don’t know what’s in the bill. That’s how inadequate these Democrats and Republicans are today, because they’re told how to vote by their political parties, they don’t need to know what’s in a bill. They get told from the higher echelon; vote yes on this, vote no on that. Well, why do they subject themselves to all the additional reading if they’re told how to vote in the first place?

Alex Jones: Well, sir, there’s some breaking news on this front. We have had listeners that have contacted Jim Gerlach’s office, that have contacted the other congressmen that you were able to talk to, Steve Cohen of Tennessee. And Gerlach sent a response out and said, “I was made aware of the legislation by Willow Grove air force base. The base is in the process of being de-commissioned and will be an effective way to both, save jobs and prepare for emergencies”, then he goes on to say, “Citizens will not be held against their will”. But when you go to the urban warfare drills, when you see what FEMA is training for and you read the bill, it says, “Any purpose that Homeland Security and FEMA see fit”. Maybe Gerlach is ignorant, but watching the body language of Cohen and then watching him laugh once you hand him the bill and say, “Oh actually I do know about this”. I mean, talk about a Perry Mason moment, Governor. But I mean, specifically, what was it like when you brought up the camps and the bill, and then he just says, “Oh, big aliens, green men, people coming down in machines”.

Jesse Ventura: Yea, they make light of it. They just laugh it off like it’s much ado about nothing. “Why are you concerned about this? I’ve told you there is no problem.” So I guess you’re just supposed to believe this elected person. You know, it’s don’t believe your lying eyes, Alex, when you go, like I have, and visually seen them and then you actually use your eyes to read the bill. It’s almost like they’re saying to you, “Oh, don’t believe your lying eyes, I’ll give you the answer here”.

Alex Jones: Well, you’ve made history, no one has ever put this together on national television. And that’s another issue, how are you getting this on television.

Jesse Ventura: I don’t know, let’s give TruTV credit. Marc Juris, head of the network, told unequivocally at dinner, “There has never been any though that your shows would not go on from the moment we contracted to do them”. And I never believed they’d go on either. Maybe the powers to be are so arrogant now, that they’re at the point where it doesn’t matter anymore whether we know now or not.

Alex Jones: I agree, I think that’s probably 50% of it. The rest is, they operate through our ignorance, our compartmentalization. And a lot of people in media, in the power structure, really aren’t part of the elite. And so the globalist can’t come out in every case and stop something from getting on air now. They always just counted on people self-censoring or saying, “Oh, I don’t believe that”.

Jesse Ventura: Right. Well, let’s remember, too, what Albert Einstein said, and it applies greatly to the United States of America. Albert Einstein’s quote was, “A foolish faith in authority is the enemy of the truth”. And that’s what we have in this country with our egos. We have this foolish faith in authority that authority would never do anything to harm us, authority is always good, it has our best interest in mind. Well, I got news for you, you can be deceived. You can elect evil people, you know. They can deceive you, they will portray to you something that they are not. You’ve all seen pro-wrestling. Well, pro-wrestling isn’t too far from pro-politics.

Alex Jones: Absolutely. Let me add one more point in Gerlach’s response to constituents. He says, “However, as I make clear to Mr. Ventura, I am more than happy to address any potential problems with the legislation”.

Jesse Ventura: But he never spoke to me.

Alex Jones: No, no. He says he told you one time to come, and that you didn’t come, so he’s lying.

Jesse Ventura: We went there twice, you see it right on the film.

Alex Jones: No, I know.

Jesse Ventura: I never spoke to him, I wouldn’t know him if he walked up to me right now. I spoke to a couple of his people, they informed me that he left to go back to his constituency and that he wouldn’t be able to see me.

Alex Jones: And that’s at the time when you agreed to meet with him. Clearly they’ve been caught. They were apologetic on the video. Clearly you went twice when they said be there, and when they found out you were there at the office, suddenly he disappeared out the back door.

Jesse Ventura: Yea. And now he’s saying that I didn’t show up.

Alex Jones: Yea.

Jesse Ventura: Wow. You be the judge, it’s all on film, you know.

Alex Jones: It just shows, sir, I don’t think they’re playing dumb, okay. I mean, look, everything in that emergency centers act is what they’ve already built, what we’ve documented years ago, it’s just the rolling out of it. Kind of like, they were already wire tapping, but then they retroactively made it legal.

Jesse Ventura: Absolutely, I think it ties right into that old continuity of government, Alex, which they’ve, of course, been rolling out since Ronald Reagan.

Alex Jones: Well, I did notice that the ratings came out and for this season, The Police State had the highest ratings than any other shows, which again certifies the truth shows. The people are hungry for hardcore news. I hope the JFK special tonight tops it all. 9 o’clock central, 10 PM eastern. And lobby TruTV and tell them to re-air that police state tonight. I mean, common, I thought that was airing at 8 o’clock, that just blew me away. The water special is coming up, also the BP special – you and I down there in the Gulf.

Jesse Ventura: Yea, and we also go back to 9/11 and will focus on the alleged plane to hit the Pentagon.

Alex Jones: Unbelievable. Well, governor, we only have about 2 minutes left. Any other tidbits on the TSA, on the JFK?

Jesse Ventura: I’d just like to say, Alex, again I’m making my stand; I’m not going to fly commercial anymore in the United States because of … I explained all that. So until the policy changes, I don’t know. I can’t state the future of the show now, they’re all done this year. But of course, I have to fly in which to do them, and certainly I don’t believe they have the budget to fly me in a private jet. So it may be curtains for the show; I don’t know. But if it is, whatever, it’s a stand that I feel I must make. I hope people respect my decision, but I feel I have to make it. And so, Alex, I guess I won’t see you anymore unless we’re driving.

Alex Jones: Oh man, I always enjoy hanging out with you, you’re a great guy.

Jesse Ventura: But I’ve got to make a stand because, again, I’m in a worse predicament because I set the things off every time.

Alex Jones: No, no, I understand. And watching you, I sat there while you were being searched in front of me with their hands all over you. You said, “This is like East Germany, that’s why I’m leaving this country”. Folks, search the term “JFK deathbed confession”. Let’s make it no.1. Governor Ventura, can’t wait to see you soon when you get back from Mexico.

Jesse Ventura: Okay, Alex. Keep up the great work and keep fighting the fight and I left all the co-lateral damage for you, I’m going to head off surfing.

Alex Jones: Alright, take care, Governor.

Alex Jones: I’m here with Jesse Ventura and we just did an interview for his upcoming television program “Conspiracy Theory”. Governor, it’s good to be here with you.

Jesse Ventura: Great, Alex. It’s always nice to see you.

Alex Jones: Never hung out with you in California. Tell us about the TV show.

Alex Jones: Well, it’s a TV show. It’s going to be on the TRU Network and we’re going to deal with conspiracies and we’re going to deal with all sides of them and it’s going to be multiple different ones that we’ll deal with. And I think people are going to find it not only enlightening, but entertaining at the same time.

Alex Jones: What did you think about our little discussion about population reduction?

Jesse Ventura: Well, it’s kind of stunning when I talk to you about it. It’s the kind of think when it’s told to you you’re not sure if you can believe it or not, because it’s so outrageous and outlandish in its concept. You can’t imagine that things like that can occur in our lives. But the more I am doing “Conspiracy Theory”, the more I am learning about different conspiracies out there beyond, of course, just the assassination of John F. Kennedy and things of that nature. But it’s pretty enlightening and pretty shocking when you do learn about them.

Alex Jones: Well, I’m glad that your show is somewhat of an investigation of these ideas. Because of lot of it out there, from my research, is baloney or part of it is wrong, part of it is right. More often than not that is the case. I’m just seeking for the truth and trying to find out historically what’s happened, what’s happening currently and what’s coming up in the future. But I will tell you: on the subject of eugenics, on the subject of world population reduction, it’s part of the public record. It’s just not popularly known. That’s what’s so exciting about you doing this TV show.

Tell us about some of the other topics that are going to covered and when is it going to be airing?

Jesse Ventura: Well, we don’t know exactly yet. About the other topics… I don’t know if I want to be at liberty right now to say any of them, you know.

Alex Jones: It’s double top secret probation?

Jesse Ventura: Yep, it’s double secret probation just like animal house at this point of time. But you know Alex, you’ll be a part of this show. We’ve talked to some very interesting people on a lot of very interesting subjects and I’ll just leave it at that for right now. Tentatively I’m guessing it should be out around November, around Christmas time. It should hit the air somewhere in that general vicinity.

Alex Jones: But it’s been in the news that you are tackling 9/11.

Jesse Ventura: Oh it has? Okay yea, that will be one of them then. 9/11 is one because you know we all know there are fierce conspiracy theories about 9/11 and our main stream media won’t cover any of this stuff. So they leave it to me, so I have a job now.

Alex Jones: That’s another question. We haven’t really seen any big national TV shows look at this. I think you’re going to be one of the first that is going to objectively do it.

Jesse Ventura: Hopefully, and hopefully that will get us some ratings and hopefully we will be bought up and have another season. It’s all part of what you do in this particular business, and Alex, for me it’s a case that they won’t let me retire. I want to retire, I wanted to go surfing, but yet this is so intriguing to me that I’m holding off my retirement till we get this project done.

Alex Jones: How did you get into this, governor? Because I remember about three and a half years ago I first met you in San Antonio and interviewed you and gave you my film Terror Storm. You knew a little bit about some issues, but it seems like more and more… you’re writing a book I heard on the subject, you come on my show. I mean it seems like Jesse Ventura is…

Jesse Ventura: Here’s the problem now, Alex. I now live half the year down in Mexico. Well, I don’t watch TV in Mexico when I’m down there for the six months; I read. And so I go out, I get books on interesting topics. I like to study history and I like to study real things.

I don’t like to particularly read novels because that’s simply someone else’s imagination writing a story in a book. Well, I have my own imagination; I don’t need anybody else’s, generally. So I like to read history and I like to read controversial history and so really this has blossomed because of my time in Mexico.

I remember three years ago I actually read 17 books in one winter down there. Alex, that’s more books than I read in my entire school career. You know, so it’s reading and it’s doing that.

And I’m the creator of this show, basically. I took it with my people and we sold it and the TRU Network brought it and they found it interesting enough, and here we are.

Alex Jones: Governor, during the research for this television show, and now that you’re really immersed in this reading all these books down in Mexico part of the year surfing, what do you think of the New World Order itself, the move towards world government? Or are you not even convinced of that?

Jesse Ventura: Well, you know, I guess I’m 50-50 right now as I look at it, because I don’t want to believe it and that’s probably what holds me back on it. But I am certainly seeing enough indication that it could be true, absolutely. Because they’re always talking about Mexico and the United States and Canada ending up like Europe and there are things done politically that seem to take us in that direction.

And so I think it’s incumbent upon all of us as American citizens to pay attention. You know, you got time to watch baseball, you got time to watch football, you got time to entertain yourself. But I think we’re losing a knowledgeable public. And we’ve got to give people back on track to paying attention, because if you don’t pay attention to your government and what they’re doing, you’re going to pay some dire consequences for it.

I always live by simple things like dissention is the greatest form of patriotism; and I believe that. Because if you don’t hold your elected officials’ feet to the fire and pay attention, you are going to get bad government. So it’s imperative for all of us, it’s our job as citizens of this great country to pay attention.

Alex Jones: Alright, Governor Venture, thanks for talking to us.

5/21/2009

Alex Jones: Okay, let’s go and play some of this video of Jesse Ventura for our PrisonPlanet.tv viewers, audio for the listeners on the radio. Because we have hours and hours and we didn’t put this on the web for some reason. And I notice it’s all over the news when he talks about he can water board Cheney and make him say he killed Sharon Taite and how ridiculous water boarding is. Here is part of that clip, then we’ll go on a break, come back with the rest of it and then go live with Jesse Ventura. Stay with us.

Jesse Ventura: Our country today is not the country that I defended when I was in the service back in the 1970s and 1960s, because back in those days you still had to be charged with the crime before you were guilty of it, and back in those days you had to be charged with the crime to be held. It seems today now they can arrest you, they can hold you for as long as they feel like it, like they’re doing in Guantanamo.

Alex Jones: The Military Commission Act says they can grab American citizens.

Jesse Ventura: Which is absurd.

Alex Jones: How was it then that the people running things aren’t the bad guys, I’m not saying America is the bad guy, when they wrote memos saying its okay to torture people, children in front of their parents it’s okay. To kill them if you didn’t mean to kill them along the torture or the enhanced interrogation techniques, and so they play the lawyer game of saying, “Well, we don’t call electric shocks or pulling out finger nails torture, we call it enhanced interrogation”, and then play that lawyer mind game. Can you speak about that?

Jesse Ventura: I think I don’t know about all of that but I will speak directly about water boarding.

Alex Jones: Yea, I mean specifically about torture. You are saying that is not torture?

Jesse Ventura: I will always speak about water boarding. I was water boarded. I was water boarded by my own country. Now, if we call water boarding torture, then why do we torture our own soldiers? And I’m not saying water boarding isn’t torture, it is. I deem it as torture. But yet I was water boarded, everybody that I knew was water boarded because it was part of what they called SERE school, which is Survival Escape Resistance & Evasion. It was a required course if you were going into the combat zone back in the era of Vietnam. I’m sure it’s probably still required today.

Alex Jones: Yea, they were getting them ready to be tortured and to resist, and it’s listed in those army manuals as torture, so that disproves the White House letter saying it isn’t torture.

Jesse Ventura: Well, my simple response to all this, Alex, is I would like to take our five time deferred Vice President Dick Cheney, I would like to water board him.

Alex Jones: Ha-ha.

Jesse Ventura: And let him then make the determination after having been water boarded, then we’ll ask him whether he thinks it’s torture or not. I got a feeling he’d drop dead with the heart that he has today. If you water boarded Dick Cheney I feel that he would become a fatality because his weak heart wouldn’t be able to take it. But my point being on doing that is I think these people that determine what torture is or isn’t, I think they should first have it done to them physically, and then let them make an actual determination on whether they felt it was torture or not.

Alex Jones: Can you describe what water boarding was like.

Jesse Ventura: Drowning. It gives a complete sensation that you are drowning.

Alex Jones: What do they do?

Jesse Ventura: They strap you down, they put a towel across your face and they start pouring water into the towel and naturally your mouth can’t consume all the water, you can’t drink it quick enough as they pour it, and it gives you the sensation it’s going up your nose, it’s going down your throat and it gives you the complete feeling that you are drowning, even though you’re not. The moment they stop it, you know, then it will subside.

Alex Jones: But that’s the feel water boarding, when they put your head completely in a bath tub.

Jesse Ventura: I don’t know about that one. The only time we got was the feel water boarding back in the early 1970s.

Alex Jones: That’s the classic one, man.

Jesse Ventura: They did it to all of us at SERE school, it was part of the training and so my argument there is if water boarding is indeed torture, which think it is, how come we allow to torture. And for us UDT SEAL guys, getting us water boarded was irrelevant. No, and I’ll say that, it was irrelevant. Because in our platoons and in all the people that I served with, we all had an agreement; we would never be captured, we’ll die first. So why would I need to face the water board if I am dead? All of us were under an agreement that we will die first, we will not be captured, we will go down in a blaze of glory. So why did I need to be water boarded when I had already made a conscious decision that if it ever got to the position where I felt I was going to be captured, I would take death first. And you know, I would say my attitude was I’ll take three or four of them with me before I go. Because always remember the SEALs we don’t get mad, we get even.

Alex Jones: Ha ha ha ha.

Jesse Ventura: That’s how we operate, you know. So, to me I felt that the water boarding and the whole POW thing was irrelevant to us because there has never been a SEAL captured, nor do I believe there ever will be one, because the SEAL will die first in our type of operation. The only way they’d capture a SEAL was if the SEAL didn’t know he was going to get captured and then he got captured.

Alex Jones: There he is, Jesse Ventura somewhere in time six months ago when he was here in Austin, Texas. What a great guy in person, just a regular guy, but quite an individual, quite a presence. I’ve been around a lot of famous people in my life, I’ve never been around anybody who has the presence of Jesse Ventura, and the energy. People say, “I’ll wear him out”. I was worn out after few days of hanging out with this guy. And he’s going to be coming up for a full hour coming up on June 1st. He’s been on a huge media blitz with a paperback “Don’t Start the Revolution Without Me” put up by Skyhorse Publishing. It’s a big best seller and he’s got a lot of news for us today and I got a lot of questions for him in the 25 minutes we got left. Jesse Ventura, thanks for coming on. It’s good to have you back here.

Jesse Ventura: Hi Alex, I guess it’s nice to be back but I don’t know, Mexico gets more attractive all the time.

Alex Jones: It absolutely does, are you kidding? I would love to be down there in the beach and the surf as well. I went down to Mexico for a week few months ago and I wanted to stay. Speaking of Mexico let’s bring up a question you haven’t been asked: what do you think about all the hype of this flu. A couple of people dying and they act like it’s the end of the world and Obama saying that we may all be forced to take and inoculation in the fall.

Jesse Ventura: Well, it’s certainly something that you don’t poo poo. Any time you get a sickness like this you need to pay attention to it, but I think it was completely overhyped by the media to put the country again into a scare pattern, which seems to be what the media enjoys to do now, which is to cause fear and have everyone living in fear.

What they need to understand is that okay, if there were 1,500 cases of it in Mexico City, yes that’s something to be very concerned about. I was down there and I felt the Mexicans did a terrific job with what they could do. They closed down the schools, they shut down all the soccer games, they did everything conceivably that they could do. But remember, Mexico is a city 2 or 3 times the size of New York.

Alex Jones: Yea, it’s 30+ million.

Jesse Ventura: 20 million people live there.

Alex Jones: More than that.

Jesse Ventura: 1,500 cases of something is not that large, and I’m not saying it shouldn’t be looked at, of course. But when I came home, I went to the airport because I flew this time. They made you fill out a questionnaire, they asked you questions about how you felt and then they actually had this device where they touched it to your wrist and it took your temperature and they wrote that down and you weren’t allowed to fly out if your temperature was too high, you didn’t get on the plane. Mexico did everything they could within their power when they learnt that the swine flu was going around, they did everything conceivably as a poor nation that they could possibly do.

Alex Jones: Well governor, I agree with you but I agree with the first thing you said; this was used to create hype and fear and the openly introduce ideas like “we might need to have martial law, there’s going to be another break out soon” and it’s this whole infrastructure. Getting to the big national controversy, you caused quite a buzz and helped, really accidently, push it back into the spotlight, that Cheney and Bush committed all these crimes, ordered torture and then burned their own underlings and sent them to prison for it and are now denying it when we have their own memos from Gonzales and others and Bush’s speech.

What should be done, what’s your idea? A hearing in Congress? They’ll just white wash it. I mean if we don’t bring Bush and Cheney to justice and if Obama covers for them, as he said he’s going to “move forward”. I mean, what do we do about this from your view.

Jesse Ventura: First of all, let’s understand why the President wants to “move forward”. Because the Democrats are involved, too.

Alex Jones: Yes. Good point.

Jesse Ventura: Maybe they didn’t order it, but in my opinion they certainly knew it was going on and they didn’t step forward because, let’s remember, Democrats truly don’t have spines for the most part. And so they condoned it and went along with it. That’s why they don’t want to continue with it.

Whenever the government tells you that it’s time to move on that means that both parties are involved and both of them did something wrong. They don’t want you to know about it, so they want you to move on. And so that’s the dilemma you’re faced with. And in light of the fact that it’s all basically Democrats and Republicans in the Congress and everywhere out there, they’re going to move on and we’ll be left like we always are, Alex. Yelling out there, “Where’s justice?” Justice will have been lost, blinded.

Alex Jones: Well, that’s my next question to you. I mean from your perspective, how do we get out of this left-right, as you described when we interviewed you… two different wrestlers play the bad guy and the good guy, but really they’re on the same team. How do we get past that and ever get these special interest and these elites out of the way that are doing this to us?

Jesse Ventura: Well Alex, that’s simple. The lemmings out there have to start voting for the independents. Look how we tried our asses off to get Dean Barkley elected. He did very, very well, he got over 400,000 votes. But we have to continue from there and keep going. The only way is to win elections. The only way is to not vote for Democrats and Republicans and stop being lemmings and believing it’s your only choice. Can it be done? I don’t know.

Alex Jones: Absolutely, it’s like a Don King boxing match. You know both fighters are owned by him, so what’s the point of watching. And you know it’s a rigged deal.

Jesse Ventura: Oh Alex, common, so is wrestling and that’s entertaining as hell.

Alex Jones: Hey, speaking of that, you went to UFC and saw one of those events, didn’t you? You still think it might be fake?

Jesse Ventura: Oh, the Ultimate fighting?

Alex Jones: Yea.

Jesse Ventura: Let me put it to you this way. Brock Lesnar who is the champ now, right?

Alex Jones: Yes.

Jesse Ventura: Brock Lesnar told me that pro wrestling is tougher.

Alex Jones: Really?

Jesse Ventura: Yea, that kind of stuns you, doesn’t it? But you know why he says it? Here’s why: Brock told me pro wrestling is harder because in ultimate fighting he only has to go in there for 15 minutes of hell, then he takes 2 to 3 months rest, he trains for 2 months and he goes back in for 15 minutes of hell.

While in pro wrestling you got to wrestle every night, you got to do interviews, you got to travel all over the country from one end to the other. It’s the most exhausting business you can possibly be in.

So that’s why. Do I think they’re really fighting? Yes I do. But the point is it’s only for 15 minutes and then they get a 6 month rest.

Alex Jones: Have you seen the move “The Wrestler”?

Jesse Ventura: No I have not, I just got back from Mexico.

Alex Jones: I want to get your take on that.

Jesse Ventura: Well, I can tell you this. Rather than what Hulk Hogan says it’s about him, no it’s not. From what I know about the film, I believe it’s about Jake ‘The Snake’ Roberts much more, because if you go to a movie that was a documentary called ‘Beyond The Mat’ that was done by a friend of mine, Barry Blowsky.

If you go watch that movie you’ll see that this character very much parallels the Mickey Rourke Character and the fact that he went through ups and down, he achieved the greatest in his career and he ended up down in the bottom again and he had a great deal of battle with a lot of demons including a daughter. In the documentary it shows Jake’s rough relationship with his daughter, which very much parallels the Rourke character in the movie “The Wrestler”.

Alex Jones: Well, obviously it’s not about Hulk Hogan. It’s about a guy who’s living in a trailer shack and is totally broke and has a heart attack. I mean, Hogan is something else, I guess, complete ego maniac.

Jesse Ventura: Oh yea, Hogan’s out there saying “just because the guy says ‘brother’ it’s about me”. Hahaha. I don’t think so.

Alex Jones: Hey, by the way I loved what you revealed about Hogan the other day, I happened to hear that.

Jesse Ventura: Hahahaha.

Alex Jones: Don’t do it here.

Jesse Ventura: No, I won’t.

Alex Jones: This is a conservative show, but it was hilarious. Oh my goodness.

Jesse Ventura: Don’t forget something, we Navy SEALs don’t get mad, we get even.

Alex Jones: Well, I’ve got you for a full hour to take calls in about 8, 9 days. We appreciate your time a lot. I’ll get more into all that other stuff and all the serious issues, but tell us about the paperback “Don’t Start the Revolution Without Me”.

Jesse Ventura: Well, you know, because the epilogue was not outdated, I don’t know if they removed it, but I added a couple of good chapters and we updated it, which is what they always do when a hardcover goes to paperback. But I updated a few chapters in it and all that stuff, but again it’s a wakeup call. I hope this country will wake up to the fact that, you know, dissension is the greatest form of patriotism and the fact that if you don’t hold your government officials feet to the fire you’re going to get bad government and that’s good, that’s not a unpatriotic.

And we better start taking our country back or we’re going to lose it because, Alex, you know, to me if we’re torturing people now, that means the terrorists are winning. Because they’re changing America and that’s what they’ve set out to do. Do we really want them to win? I don’t.

Alex Jones: Well, Jesse, I mean, governor, you’re a smart guy and we’ve had a lot of talks and I know you’re getting deeper into whole underworld of the New World Order and all this and you’re doing a lot more research on it and working on a lot of projects, a book and a TV show and the rest of it. I don’t know how much of that we can get into, but some of that’s got a gag order on it, because as it’s being produced right now.

But we talk about the buildings clearly being blown up and then the question is who could put them in there, who could do it. I know you’ve been in Mexico, but now they’ve had top scientists, two peer reviewed journals, top Dutch physicists have come out, international news, BBC, national TV in Europe confirming that they actually got the thermite samples from the buildings. They were blown up with explosive thermite.

Then you have the folks at NEST that are recovering all the substance that happened to be three of the top seven or so experts of thermite in the world. So common, this whole terrorist thing; it’s a fraud. They’ve used this to take our liberties, to take our freedoms and the same elite that was in control and when Bush was in control, they control Obama. Aren’t you worried that they’re talking about going into Iran now and aren’t you worried the same global elite might stage more terror attacks, or you think that was just Bush?

Jesse Ventura: Well, I don’t know. I guess I hate to say it but until they do something, we won’t know, will we Alex? Because we’re not on the inner circle. We’re not sitting in on the meetings where the decisions are made, so I can only respond as it happens. I guess the Iranians blew off a missile, you know, they showed some film of some missile going up in the air. Do I really know they did it? I don’t know.

You know, you get to the point, especially with our news media today that you don’t know what to believe and what not to believe. Initially you come out and they make you believe something, and then sort of six months later you learn other things that make you disbelieve what they told you, so when they tell me something today I don’t know whether to believe it or not.

Alex Jones: Absolutely, Jesse. Let me bring this question up to you then. On 08-08-2008 I get up, CNN says Russia has snuck attacked Georgia, then I get to the office and I’m watching foreign TV and even reading down deep in the Associated Press that Georgia’s snuck attacked South Ossetia, and two days later they admitted “Okay, it was all a PR stunt. NATO and US troops were there advising the sneak attack on the Russians”. I mean that’s how much our media and government will lie, is that they will launch sneak attacks on Russian territories. Does that sound like a good idea to you, Jesse?

Jesse Ventura: No, not at all. You know, that sounds to me like you know, if can go back in history… is Howard Hunt still alive? [...] That sounds like the stuff they would do in Cuba back down in the days of the Bay of Pigs and all that stuff when our CIA was down there trying to overthrow Castro secretly and making attempts at blowing up ships in the harbor and doing all that sort of behavior. It reminds me of the stuff that went on in Central America, doing the whole Iran-Contra conflict. What this country has got to do is to get its head out of its you-know-what and start realizing that there is a reason why these people don’t like us out there in the world. And a lot of it has got to do with our behavior.

Alex Jones: I agree, and these corrupt offshore elites that are using the United States as their tool, their front man, their strongman, their engine to carry this out. Can you talk about what we discussed this morning in that conversation about how you are discovering more and more stuff, you’re writing a book about conspiracies? The point about Lincoln, or do you just want to not get into that?

Jesse Ventura: Oh no, that’s fine. The story I can tell you is this. Dick Russel, my co-writer, he brought this to my attention. He sat me down and we were down together in the Baja, and he just looked at me and he said, “Governor, what do you know about the murder of Abraham Lincoln? What were you taught in school?” And I said, “Well, what I recall that I was taught in school was that Abraham and his wife went to the Ford movie theatre and then John Wilkes snuck up behind him, shot him in the head, tried to jump from the balcony, hooked his leg on something and broke his leg, they trailed him to a cabin and killed him.” I said that’s what I was taught, and Dick said to me, “So they never taught you that there were actually seven people arrested, tried and convicted for the assignation of Abraham Lincoln and the attempt on Ulysses S. Grant and Vice President Johnson?” I said, “I never heard a word about that until you told me about that right now”. And so what causes me concern is that I don’t know why don’t we put that in our school books about what really happened and that there was this literal attempt from the confederacy to assassinate three of the top union leaders, the President, the Vice President, and General Grant.

Alex Jones: The issue is why isn’t this put in school books, regardless of what side of this you’re on?

Jesse Ventura: Yeah. Why don’t they write the truth about history, and it scares me to death to think, “Okay, what can you believe in our history books that our children are reading today?” Are they going to continue to tell us that Lee Harvey Oswald killed Jack Kennedy when there is enough evidence out there that indicates that if he did take part in it, he certainly didn’t do it alone.

Alex Jones: Well governor, here is another one. It is mainline history even in Shire’s “Rise and Fall of the Third Reich” which was Pulitzer prize winning. It’s in all the major mainline history books, but it’s never on Discovery channel, the History channel and the news. Did you know that the British and U.S. governments actually funded Hitler? That Edward the Eight, the king, was a Nazi, he had to escape Germany when the war started and that the West basically told Hitler to go ahead and do what he did and that they were going to back him and they turned against him? Hitler’s still evil, the point is that that’s why they let the British escape at Dunkirk and all that. That’s why the Reich Fuhrer came in and parachuted to England with the peace treaty saying, “I have the peace treaty. Why are you doing this? We had a deal!”

Jesse Ventura: Alex, I have to tell you I don’t know any of that, I have to claim ignorance. I’ve never studied it, probably should but you know there are only so many hours in the day.

Alex Jones: I know, exactly, I’m saying you’re a prominent guy. Get your writer to look into that, because that’s something that is mainline, Pulitzer prize. It’s just in there like it’s no big deal. It’s kind of like an elephant in the living room and nobody is even pointing it out.

Jesse Ventura: Yea, you can’t see the forest for the trees.

Alex Jones: Absolutely.

Jesse Ventura: Okay, that’s interesting stuff. The book we’re going to write though is going to deal with multiple conspiracies through the years and cover them and hopefully make people think a little bit and make them realize. Because I still sit back and say “You’re telling me all the assassinations of the 1960s were all done by lone nuts?” You know, I lived through them and I just can’t believe that there wasn’t one more person involved than who they told us.

Alex Jones: Well, it’s now come out that Patty Hearst and the Weatherman, that was all staged, that’s mainstream declassified and every time I hear about mad bombers that are about to blow something up… I was in the shower this morning with the radio on listening to MPR and they admitted this latest group of idiots they found in New York… they admit, “oh by the way, the informants set up the group, were leading it and gave them the explosives”.

Jesse Ventura: Well, I’ll tell you Alex, you know more than I do on that stuff. I can’t comment on it because I have no idea.

Alex Jones: Well, you’re a very smart guy and you got a lot of courage, Jesse. And you’ve certainly have been learning a lot of stuff I didn’t know about and you taught me quite a bit about things that have happened.

Jesse Ventura: Well, you got to remember Alex, you’re here all the time now. I take a leave of absence for six months.

Alex Jones: Well, I think that’s good. I think you deserve it after all that you’ve done. Speaking of that, they keep asking you, are you going to run for the Senate? Are you going to run for governor? Are you ever going to run for office again?

Jesse Ventura: At this time, no. I don’t but I never say never because, you know, I can’t predict the future, I can’t predict that something won’t happen that would inspire me to do it again. But right now I don’t have the fire in my belly to go for it. Like the Senate race, it really came down to flipping a coin. I let destiny determine it. But the other main reason was that I thought about, you know, at my age now that’s six years of my life that I got to go hang out with people I don’t even like?

Alex Jones: Yea, they are…

Jesse Ventura: That is difficult to do, you know at this point in my life. I’ve only got so many more years on the planet. I’m closing in on 60 years old and I want to enjoy myself and to go out there and hang around with them people for six years, that would be like, why don’t I just go and put myself in prison.

Alex Jones: Well, Governor Ventura, I understand. And that’s the problem. Evil people will scrabble and claw to get power. They’ll knaw through steel to get it, and then good guys like you, they don’t want power so they do something to fight the evil but then at a certain point they get so disgusted by the elitists that they don’t even want to get involved in it. I don’t blame you.

Jesse Ventura: If I get that disgusted you know I’ll be back.

Alex Jones: Absolutely. So that’s a little hint that you’re going to be back in the future. We’ll talk a lot coming up on June 1st; we’re going to give you exactly one hour of the show you’re going to come on then. But Governor Ventura, the book is out in paperback. In closing, you talk about on TV water boarding Dick Cheney. I mean, this guy says it’s so great, it’s so wonderful, they admit 90+% of the people at Guantanamo bay are totally innocent, they were just picked up by bounty hunters at $25,000 a piece. Most of them are 14, 15 years old. The intelligence they used to scare everybody came from torture. I mean I think if Cheney says “water boarding is no big deal”, I mean maybe he should show us that it is no big deal. Can you comment on that?

Jesse Ventura: Well, first of all, I made the quote, I said it on Larry King, that if you gave me a water board, Dick Cheney and one hour, I’d have him confessing to the Tate murders.

Alex Jones: Hahaha.

Jesse Ventura: Well, I have to amend that though, Alex, I don’t think I could accomplish that, you know why?

Alex Jones: Why?

Jesse Ventura: His heart ain’t good enough, he wouldn’t be alive for an hour to even confess.

Alex Jones: Exactly, exactly.

Jesse Ventura: And that tells you how bad water boarding is. Because I do not believe Dick Cheney physically could take it, you know, with the heart that he has. Doing this to people and for calling it another name called “enhanced interrogation”, well, that’s baloney because torture is torture and they’re like jury-picking. They say, “You can’t torture a person from the United Sates but if the person comes from somewhere else in the world, torture is okay”.

Alex Jones: Yea, that was my last question. What about the Department of Homeland Security documents that came out listing conservatives, gun owners, returning veterans as the number one terror threat and that Homeland Security set up for them, and then it made the news…and we broke that news… that when we were out having an “End The Fed” rally with Ron Paul, the army was spying on us in Texas.

Jesse Ventura: Well, that’s because you’re in Texas. You can’t do nothing in Texas.

Alex Jones: No, but what do you think about that DHS report trying to list the American people as the terrorist.

Jesse Ventura: Well, again I don’t know Alex, that’s only stuff you know. And it’s not that I don’t believe you, but I can only speak about stuff that I actually know about, and I’ll say this:

Alex Jones: Yea, I know you have been down in Mexico. Yea, go ahead.

Jesse Ventura: If we’re not vigilant, we’re going to lose our freedoms, because it’s a natural progression. If you look down through the annals of history you will always see it happening. Unless the citizenry takes control… in fact, let me say this, Alex, I’ll finish like this: They won’t release the photos of our torture, right?

Alex Jones: Yes.

Jesse Ventura: Well, then how about if I step forward of behalf of the tax payers and the citizens of the great United States of America, and I want to go public with this. I’ll let you break it. I will represent us, let me go where these photos are. Let me go inside and see them and let me come out and report back as to what these photos are. I think I have the right to do that, I think they no right to keep me from that, you know why? I pay their salary and I’m a governor, I’m a mayor, I’m a former Navy SEAL, I had a top secret security clearance, I think I am fully qualified to walk in and view these photos on behalf of all the…

Alex Jones: Jess, so we can finish I am going to go one min over right now. We’re going to keep going on the web, InfoWars.com. We’re going to cut that feed.

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